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December 28, 2006 , Men make more than Women myth debunked!

Wo-money, Wo-money, Wo-money!This discussion came up with the family the other night.  Every once in a while the old 59 cents to the dollar 1960's Feminist mantra comes up again.  Do Men really make more than women?  Do we need a stronger "Equality Pay Act?"  We are capitalist, so let's first start by asking yourself this simple question: If women do the equal work of Men and they get paid less, why don't employers hire all women?  Simple business economics right?

Warren Farrell tried to tackle this issue in his book "Why Men Earn More."  Through his studies he found the women entrepreneurs earn 50% less than their Male counterparts.  He also concludes that the wage differences are due to life choices.  "Men and women make 25 work-life choices that actually created the wage gap."  Money motivator for Men 76%, women  25%.

So we already see that women make less as entrepreneurs and they don't have money as a motivator.  Those are two good reasons to make less in a job.  Not so fast.  Warren states that "when a Male and a female civil engineer both stay with their respective companies for ten years, travel and relocate equally and take the same career risks, the woman ends up making more."  Further more, "among workers who have never been married and never had children, women earn 117% of what Men do.  (This factors in education, hours worked and age.)"

Women are also more unlikely to take a high risk job.  Construction work can be good, decent paying work, but women won't  work these jobs.  Men represent 92% of all occupational deaths.  (Not Fair!  I want equality there!)  Therefore, we can't  take those kinds of opportunities into account.  Here are 39 jobs that woman make more than Men.  So we start to see that pay must be taken on a case by case basis, but many times Men come out on the short side of the stick of "Equal work for Equal  pay."

So how far exactly does this equality thing have to go?  Men currently make up only 42 percent of the nation's college  students.  Men make less in many job fields with all things being equal.  If we continue it won't be long before Men are calling for equality.  Warren Farrell actually offers the argument to use affirmative action to fix areas where woman  currently are behind, this feminist disagrees.  Another feminist, Carey Roberts states, "According to the Bureau of Labor  Statistics, full-time Men clock an average of 45 hours a week, while women put in 42 hours. Men are more than twice as likely as women to work at least 50 hours a week - that's why most CEOs are male. Only in a socialist economy do employees get paid  the same, regardless of the number of hours worked."

If we remove all these factors, and just accept the postulate that "Men make more than women," may be it's because Men are smarter.  A recent study shows that Men are actually more intelligent than women.  So why don't more employers hire the equal woman for lesser pay?  Because with a Man they get a smarter employee, who will make them more money in returns, work longer  hours, and really for less pay (not made up less pay).  Simple business economics. 

In closing Carey Roberts writes, "I'm going to predict that when word of these disparities leaks out, American companies will be faced with a tsunami of complaints, grievances, and lawsuits from men alleging wage discrimination.  Because men deserve equal pay for equal work."

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I hate feminists. - Fat

When men start doing the same amount of work in the home as women do, then we'll talk about equality. - Pickle

Uh, work in the home has nothing to do with the wages earned in the work place. Furthermore, how a husband and wife divide up the work at home should be there own business and nobody else's. As long as they agree on their job roles why should anybody else care or even try to butt in? - Fat

Pickle, how the heck do you make a comment on your frickin blog. They ask for your firstborn kid before they let you sign on. Anyhoo, good luck with nursing school. - Fat

""when a Male and a female civil engineer both stay with their respective companies for ten years, travel and relocate equally and take the same career risks, the woman ends up making more." " This is why. It is frequently the woman who puts her career on hold temporarily or permanently to raise a family and run a household. - Pickle

I dunno, I thought I had it set so anyone could reply. Maybe it doesn't accept anonymous comments. Let me see what I can do. And thanks! (I'll take your firstborn though, he's SO CUTE!) - Pickle

Do you expect a woman who takes a few years off to be on the same pay level of a man that has that many more years experience? The fact is when matched up evenly women make more, when they don't there's reasons. Like they took time off to raise a family. YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO!! - MAN POWER!!!

What exactly is the cake and the too in this analogy? - Pickle

BTW, it takes a real man to e-yell at a woman. - Pickle

Maybe married women should just stay out of the workplace all together: http://frugalliving.about.com/od/livingononeincome/a/no2income090306.htm...just a thought. - Fat

So women civil engineers are smarter than male civil engineers? - doc

Pickle I love how women want equality but a guy using Caps to empahsize a point gets you back to 1950's right away. Goes to the point that he's making. Women only want equality so long as it benefits them. The minute it doesn't you for example want to be treated like a "lady" as in a man shouldn't yell at a woman. Now to the point of the story these facts have been known for years yet women want to whine all the time about equal pay. Atleast women have a choice whether to work or stay at home with their kids. Men learned early in life that they have no choice. You will work and could possibly forced into war because at 18 by LAW you must register for the draft. I'm so sick of women complaining about anything and everything when they actually GET many more choices than men. - Jostman

No, men shouldn't yell at women. Nor should women yell at men. It's called being civil, and I didn't realize that went out in the 1950s. Can you tell me why a man would not have the choice between working or staying home to raise children? No one puts a gun to his head and makes him get a job. Also, registering for Selective Service has nothing to do with entering the workforce one way or another. I'm sorry it is so hard for you being a man in America today, I really am. I'd like to know what is being denied to you by virtue of having a penis instead of a vagina. - Pickle

One more thing...why would equality and being treated like a "lady" be mutually exclusive anyway? - Pickle

this is not educating

- Taquanna

It's nice to see you have another Barack Obama supporter on your site.

- FOS

Oh snap, I just learned what FOS stands for in school last week!

- Pickle

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